Alternate Weapons of War thread...

huh... the models called yankee clipper, and those are union uniforms. so its the us civil war

and your both wrong thats the confederate naval jack

Union soldiers in a Confederate airship?

And it's not a CSA naval jack. The CSA naval jack doesn't have any horizontal bar on it.
 
I imagine a clown in an SS uniform piloting it.

A truly scary sight indeed.

Actually , the camoflage and Identification marks were specified by an AH player who wanted it for a game thats on at the moment , a semi-fascist Vinland with modern vikings.
 

Hapsburg

Banned
Here is the line-art mech.

The Marten patrol/support mech, designed with fast movement and mobility in mind. The Marten's speed and impressive electronic warfare and scanner suite gives it the edge in scouting and perimeter control; however, its armament allow it to be used quite effectively as an infantry-support weapon. The combination of light artillery, automatic cannons, and machine-guns make it capable against infantry and light vehicles.
Its primary operational drawback seems to be its fuel efficiency; storing roughly two tons of liquid fuel and burning it at a rate of 2 litres per kilometre, the Marten can run through its fuel stores rapidly in intense combat. Its auxiliary power units mitigate this to some degree, powering secondary systems to that the main turbine can operate the suspension and locomotive systems. However, it is still a pressing logistical issue; work is underway to design either a new, more fuel-efficient turbine or develop more powerful fuel cells that can be miniaturised to the Marten's scale.
Despite this, it remains a popular choice in army and marine cavalry units as a light support walker and multi-purpose combat machine; the pinnacle of light mech design.

Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Group
Rollout: 6286
Height: 7 meters
Mass: 12 tons dry; 20 tons full
Armour: 25mm boron nitride with diamond coating
Powerplant: Honeywell T5 Liquid-Fuelled Turbine; two auxiliary 250 kilowatt fuel cells
Main Engine Output: 1,520 kilowatts
Fuel capacity: 2000 litres
Fuel efficiency: 2 litres/km
Max speed: 72 km/h
Armament:
1 x Rheinmetall BK-202 20mm automatic cannon + 1000 rounds
2 x Bofors L9k 37mm cannons + 300 rounds/ea.
2 x Rheinmetall MG-600 7.92mm machine guns + 1,100 round/ea.

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he Ynkee clipper caption:
"Inspired by William Forstchen's Lost Regiment series of novels. This airship has a Sterling Hot Air engine with a hydrogen filled gasbag. It is a prime example of hypothetical engineering in science fiction. "What if a Civil War era engineer found himself with unlimited resources and a horrible war to fight?""
 

Krall

Banned
Here is the line-art mech.

The Marten patrol/support mech, designed with fast movement and mobility in mind. The Marten's speed and impressive electronic warfare and scanner suite gives it the edge in scouting and perimeter control; however, its armament allow it to be used quite effectively as an infantry-support weapon. The combination of light artillery, automatic cannons, and machine-guns make it capable against infantry and light vehicles.
Its primary operational drawback seems to be its fuel efficiency; storing roughly two tons of liquid fuel and burning it at a rate of 2 litres per kilometre, the Marten can run through its fuel stores rapidly in intense combat. Its auxiliary power units mitigate this to some degree, powering secondary systems to that the main turbine can operate the suspension and locomotive systems. However, it is still a pressing logistical issue; work is underway to design either a new, more fuel-efficient turbine or develop more powerful fuel cells that can be miniaturised to the Marten's scale.
Despite this, it remains a popular choice in army and marine cavalry units as a light support walker and multi-purpose combat machine; the pinnacle of light mech design.

Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Group
Rollout: 6286
Height: 7 meters
Mass: 12 tons dry; 20 tons full
Armour: 25mm boron nitride with diamond coating
Powerplant: Honeywell T5 Liquid-Fuelled Turbine; two auxiliary 250 kilowatt fuel cells
Main Engine Output: 1,520 kilowatts
Fuel capacity: 2000 litres
Fuel efficiency: 2 litres/km
Max speed: 72 km/h
Armament:
1 x Rheinmetall BK-202 20mm automatic cannon + 1000 rounds
2 x Bofors L9k 37mm cannons + 300 rounds/ea.
2 x Rheinmetall MG-600 7.92mm machine guns + 1,100 round/ea.

I usually don't like the mechs you draw - being someone who believes humanoid mecha to be inefficient and unrealistic - but this one looks very good and much more realistic.
 

Hapsburg

Banned
I usually don't like the mechs you draw - being someone who believes humanoid mecha to be inefficient and unrealistic - but this one looks very good and much more realistic.

Well, most of my mechs aren't very humanoid. They're more like kangaroos, really. The implication of those is that by the time the CGU exists, humanoid/kangaroo mechs will become practical.
Though this one's more like a chicken; I based the legs off a design I found on a Rifts fan site.
 
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Here is a little teaser from a TL i've been working on over the past few months. I hope to have it up on the site over the next few weeks but for now enjoy. Some credit to Shipbucket.

By the early 1960’s, things in Britain and the Commonwealth were changing at a pace. The dark post war years were now gone and the economy was the strongest in Western Europe. However, Britain’s military was in a sorry state, in particular the Navy which had since 1945 been living off the wartime equipment surplus. Anthony Eden’s post war frugalness between 1945 and 1950 mean that the navy had borne the brunt of the massive cuts and 10 years of Labour throughout the 50’s had only compounded the matter but under the leadership of Lord Mountbatten, it had remained a potent, if somewhat underfunded force. Nevertheless, by the end of the 1950’s it had become increasingly apparent that modernisation would soon be needed, in particular to the Carrier Fleet. The 2 Implacable Class and 3 Audacious Class vessels were starting to show their limitations with the next, third generation aircraft necessary to counter the Soviet and East Block threat simply too large and powerful to operate safely from their decks, as was also the case for the Canadian and Australian Centaur Class vessels. All of these ships also suffered greatly in terms of capacity, further limiting their combat effectiveness. Therefore, the next step was obvious – if Britain and the Commonwealth were going to remain a force to be reckoned with, a new fleet of vessels, similar in capacity to that of the American super carriers was going to be needed. Initial designs as commissioned by the government were monumental, on a scale similar to the U.S. Forrestal Class carriers, weighing in at almost 80,000 Tons, four Steam catapults and three lifts. The designs, although they held much potential were deemed too much for even Britain to operate, let alone Canada or Australia. Furthermore, without extensive dock upgrades, vessels of that size simply couldn’t be maintained properly. Consequently the design was quickly whittled down several thousand tons but still it left room for improvement. Much deck room was lost due to the location of the ships Island, Seadart SAM and centre deck elevator and mere three engines, leaving much to be desired for. In desperation, the Royal Navy turned to its U.S. counterpart for help, who at the thought of another major naval power in NATO with such a capacity were only too happy to help. U.S. naval engineers moved the SAM to the front of the ship and built up the ships stern to deck level, creating more deck and hanger space. The ships sponsons were also increased in size and the Island was moved out to the edge of the deck, creating further space while below the water the hull was widened and a fourth engine installed. Lastly, a third steam catapult was added and the centreline deck lift replaced with a second deck edge lift, forward of the Island while the original deck edge lift was moved forward to free up hangar space. In return for their work, the U.S. government only asked that it have the right to build the vessel class themselves should they need so, viewing the ship as being a potentially cheap, fast build vessel for use in a protracted conflict much like the Essex’s in WW2.

The final design of the Admiral Class, as it was named, although not quite the 80,000 ton monster that it had originally been was still extremely impressive and by far the most capable vessels of its type outside of the U.S. They would go to serve in the Commonwealth navies through all of its major wars of the late 20th and early 21st centuries including Cyprus, Indonesia, the Falklands and the Soviet Wars of Dissolution before being replaced by the more modern Warrior Class in the 2010’s. As of 2020, only HMS Nelson remains operational as the Brazilian NAe São Paulo (A12).

Admiral Class Aircraft Carrier

Displacement: 68,000 Tons
Range: 8000 Nautical Miles
Lifts: 2 Deck Edge, 36 Ton Capacity
Catapults: Three 75m Steam Catapults
Weapons: 1 Seadart SAM (28 Missiles), 4 Phalanx CIWS
Complement: 2600 (inc Airgroup)
Aircraft Carrier: 62 (24 Hawkermarine Tornados, 24 Blackburn Buccaneers, 6 S-3 Vikings, 3 E-2 Hawkeyes, 3 WS 61 Sea Kings, 2 C-2 Greyhound).


· HMS Ark Royal

Laid Down: 1967
Launched: 1970
Commissioned: 1971

· HMCS Kingsmill

Laid Down: 1968
Launched: 1970
Commissioned: 1971

· HMS Nelson

Laid Down: 1969
Launched: 1972
Commissioned: 1973

· HMAS Collins

Laid Down: 1969
Launched: 1972
Commissioned: 1973

· HMS Hood

Laid Down: 1971
Launched: 1974
Commissioned: 1975

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Unfortunately, I must bump this thread. With a boat.

The RAS Benedict Arnold, named for the hero of the First American Rebellion, was launched during the Fifth American Rebellion, out of Veracruz, one of the last remaining vestiges of Rebel activity, and indeed, one of the most heavily defended. Due to the lack of supply's, the Benedict Arnold was origionally a museum piece, but was heavily re-fitted.

The beginning of its career began, as expected by a re-fitted museum piece, horribly. After just 11 day's out of harbour, it ran across the triumph of the Royal American Navy, the super-dreadnaught HMS Supremacy. After only 2 and a half salvo's, the Benedict Arnold ran up a white flag, and spent most of the Fifth Rebellion at port in New Orleans. Famously, however, the Arnold managed to break out of the harbour with the help of some Rebel sympathizers (not after destroying several ships, however), and caught up with the Ben Franklin Flotilla just in time to participate in the Battle of Key West, on May 26th, 1977. Famously, the Arnold managed to cripple the HMS Resolute and MacKenzie, and destroy the HMS Triumph, before once again coming up against the HMS Supremacy.

On this time around, however, the Arnold managed to get off a round of torpedo's before, putting it politely, being blown to f***ing kingdom come. The torpedo's struck the screw's of the Supremacy, causing it to be, at the very least, an unmoving target for the rest of the Flotilla. Unfortunately, the Arnold sunk after only 14 minutes, thought the entire crew managed to make it off. The Captain, James W. Matthews, went down with the ship, his last words being, "If I don't make it out, then f*** you, f*** you, f*** you, and f*** you. Don't touch my s*** when you get back!"

The actions of the Benedict Arnold, the 29 other lost ships, and the hundreds of thousands of casualties, finally managed to create the Fifth American Rebellion into the First American Revolution. The entirety of Florida, and the Gulf Coast from Florida to Louisiana, were transfered to the Rebels, and turned into the Republic of America, along with Vera Cruz, Havana, and the Bahama Islands.

The Benedict Arnold was finally raised in 2007, and, ironically, placed into the Vera Cruz Naval Museum, into the same room that it was taken from.

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Hapsburg

Banned
Redesigned sketch of the Powered Armour, Utility. The last of the large, bulky powered suits, deployed by the CGUA in situations calling for heavy forward assault, rapid blitzes across enemy lines, or in extremely hazardous and inhospitable environments. The PAU is well-armoured, almost four meters tall, and is capable to surprisingly fast movement with its pulsejet and rocket boosters. However, it requires some degree of technical skill to use and is very unwieldy in close combat, and as such is not fit for line duty; that role is served by the formfitting Powered Combat Suit.

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EARTH COALITION SPACE DEFENSE INITIATIVE (SDI)
RAGNAROK CLASS SECOND GENERATION FLEET WARSHIP

By the mid stage of the war, it was clear to many that despite Earths initial technological lead over the Martians at the beginning of the war, it was now falling behind in the technological arms race. the Martian solid state laser technology was far more advanced that Earths, and despite an initial lag its Rail-gun missile technology was beginning to pull ahead. it was clear to Earths leaders that if Earth was to maintain her edge, a new generation of weapons were needed.

The first of these "next generations" weapons were installed into the failed Europa class vessels: the Particle cannon and Microwave beam emitter. the highly advanced Accelerated Particle based weapon (known by servicemen as the "Pixie Lance" was a powerful weapon, capable of burning clean through an enemy hull with impurity, while the high energy Microwave beams (known as "Masers") played havoc with enemy electronics and radiators. however, these two weapons had a fatal flaw: the amount of heat they produced was massive, and the Europa, advanced as it was, was not able to handle the heat load. a new design was need.

The Ragnarok class is basically the sum of everything the shipbuilders of earth had learnt from the war. The first true "second generation" warship, the Ragnarok was a sight to behold. Its advanced design, with forward mounted engines, large radiators and the huge Particle accelerator "ring" was unlike anything seen before. the ship was armed to the teeth, with the Powerful Pixie Lance, a dozen high energy Masers and four rail-guns in "chase" positions, she had enough firepower to take on even the mighty Retribution class.

Although packed with advanced firepower, the ships Electronic warfare package was even more extensive. one of the few field Earth had managed to lead the Martians in by a wide margin, the Ragnarok's EW, ECW and ECCW capacities were the most advanced yet, with the capability to jam, hack or subvert across a wide spectrum of electronic frequencies. many would argue that this was the true heart of the Ragnarok's offensive and defensive capabilities, erecting a virtual "electronic wall" around the ship and preventing the martians from attacking or even targeting the vessel (it was rumored that Ragnarok class vessels had the capacity to "hack" the computer systems of Martian vessels and literally take control of an enemy ship, forcing it to open fire on friendly vessels).

But perhaps the most advanced part of the Ragnarok was its heat management systems, the heart of which were its four massive Droplet radiators. the droplet radiators work by using small, heated droplets of liquid metal. these small droplets are "launched" from an emitter and run down the hollow center of the "plate", and are caught by a receptacle and the end of the plate. the droplets have a a relative surface area much larger than standard plate radiators, and thus radiate heat faster. the walls of the radiator are not solid but are instead a fine mesh, designed to catch any stray droplets while not interfering with the radiated heat. this design is extremely hard to knock out, as unless the droplet emitters and collectors are damaged the radiator can continue to function.

When the Ragnarok was launched from SDI's heavily fortified Gilgamesh Base at the L3 Earth-Sol Lagrange point, it was seen by many as Earth restoring the balance that had been upset by the Retributions first attack. although they were expensive ( a single Ragnarok cost as much as two and a half Thunderchild class vessels) Earth, with its massive economy, was easily able to build as many of the vessels as was feasible, and soon many Ragnarok class ships were leading fleets of older Thunderchild and Anzac class ships on campaign against the Martians around Saturn and in the Trojan asteroids.

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I decided to make a Earth Federation destoroyer :D
Its my first spaceship so its pretty sucky..

As 2670 rolled by UEF launched Class U1 Destoroyer. It was first ship succesful in taking out enemy ships without horrific damages. The ship was overall cheap to make, but it had agility and good firepower. Its main gun nicknamed "Atlas" was capable of shredding through light/medium enemy shields within first shots.

Class: UEF Class U1 Destoroyer
Length: 524 m
In service: 226
Engine: Dual Ion pulse drive
FTL Drive: Single class 3 jump drive
Powerplant: 1 Large and 2 Small fusion reactors
Crew: 680, 95 officers, 775 total
Troop Capacity: 1000 Soldiers
Standing forces: 250 Marines
Starfighter complement: 4 Assault/Transport Raptors and 14 Defence fighters, 4 Light missile ships
Armour: 1.8 Meter Duralium Battlearmor
Shielding: Light class 1 missile shield
Armaments: 28 805mm U35 Autocannons,
8 Dual 460mm U15 Anti fighter/missile defence Autocannons,
6 MU85 light particle beams,
3 "Atlas" 380cm Tilium autocannons

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this is a redesign of my Thunderchild class ship from a while back. i did this for two reasons one: the original design was kinda bland. ive added in a bit more detail to this one. and two: to fix a little engineering screw up in the design concerning the radiators. now the thunderchild has four radiators at 90 degrees to each other. everything else as was describe under the first design is the same though.

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Here is a little teaser from a TL i've been working on over the past few months. I hope to have it up on the site over the next few weeks but for now enjoy. Some credit to Shipbucket...
Well, nice Carrier design there... just a few points:
1. Shipbucket demands that people who's work large chunks of a design are lifted from should be credited on the picture. Some of the admins of it seriously go nuts if they find a pic without the correct credit...
2. It wouldn't be HMAS Collins... the namesake of said ship in OTL was still alive and thriving over the timeframe the ship entered service... hell, had he lived only another couple of years the SSK class that bears his name would have needed another name.

Given the timeframe I'd suggest HMAS Farncomb instead... only a mildly lower profile Admiral (didn't get a chance to send an Italian cruiser to the sea floor) and the first Aussie to achieve flag rank in the RAN. HMAS Crace my be another alternative: Australian born, rose to flag rank in the RN, Rear Admiral commanding Australian station from '39 to '42 including commanding a Task Force during the Battle of the Coral Sea.
The RAS Benedict Arnold, named for the hero of the First American Rebellion, was launched during the Fifth American Rebellion, out of Veracruz, one of the last remaining vestiges of Rebel activity, and indeed, one of the most heavily defended. Due to the lack of supply's, the Benedict Arnold was origionally a museum piece, but was heavily re-fitted...
Utterly f***ing bonkers design. I mean you've got an OTL yankee pre-dread hull; a helo (no hanger for protection from the weather and maintenance...); single German 11 inch triple turret; three French Crotale SAM systems; launchers for both Italian and Swedish Anti-ship missiles; a Russian CIWS... and none of the radar or fire control equipment required to support ANY OF THOSE F***ING SYSTEMS.

I suggest you scrap the entire thing and redesign it FROM THE KEEL UP.

Edit to add: AND DON"T GET ME STARTED ON THE MEANINGLESS GIBBERISH THAT PASSES AS THE SHIP'S HISTORY. I mean, taken as a prize but then "gets free"? What kind of idiot allows the ship's crew to stay aboard after capture? Then the vauge "it blow up lotsa enemy ships"...

Edit to add: Here an effort by me:
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Swan class Frigate
With Indonesia increasingly falling under Soviet influence the threat of modern Submarines came home to the Royal Australian Navy. The newly commissioned Type 12 Frigates Had already been outpaced by Submarine development and so the need for a new class of ASW escort became paramount. Initial plans were to develop a Helicopter carrying variant of the Charles F Adams class, however this turned out to be cost prohibitive. Instead the RAN settled on a derivative of the Brooke class.

Armoutment (as designed):
1 x 5 inch 54 calibre gun
2 x Sea Mauler point defense SAM launchers (6 round/launcher plus 18 reloads for foward launcher)
2 x Ikara ASW missile launchers (32 rounds)
2 x Mk 32 Triple 12.7 inch ASW torpedo tubes
1 x Wessex ASW Helicopter
Assorted light weapons including 50 cal and 7.62mm Machine guns

Armoutment (as commisioned):
1 x 5 inch 54 calibre gun
2 x Sea Cat point defense SAM launchers (4 round/launcher)
2 x Ikara ASW missile launchers (32 rounds)
2 x Mk 32 Triple 12.7 inch ASW torpedo tubes
1 x Wessex ASW Helicopter
Assorted light weapons including 50 cal and 7.62mm Machine guns

Armoutment (post 1980 refit):
1 x 5 inch 54 calibre gun
1 x Sea Sparrow point defense missile system (8 round launcher and 16 reloads)
2 x Ikara ASW and Antiship missile launchers (32 rounds)
2 x Mk 32 Triple 12.7 inch ASW torpedo tubes
1 x Wessex or Sea King ASW Helicopter
Assorted light weapons including 50 cal and 7.62mm Machine guns
 
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