AHC: Prospective alternate settlers of Irrawaddy Valley

What ethnolinguistic group would settle in Irrawaddy Valley before the Pyus and Mons?

  • The Khasic peoples (Austroasiatic)

    Votes: 6 75.0%
  • Other Tibeto-Burman speaking ethnic groups

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Other Yunnanese groups (e.g. Bai-speaking people)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Andamanese groups

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Iu Mien (Yao) tribes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hmong (Miao) tribes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Others (please explain your choice)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8
Before the migration and expansion of the Bamars (the dominant ethnic group of Myanmar/Burma) from Yunnan to the Irrawaddy Delta region and Indian Ocean coastline, the Irrawaddy Valley was settled by two different ethnolinguistic groups:

- In the upper section of the river valley, the Pyu city-states and its civilization, the earliest recorded inhabitants in history of Myanmar/Burma. Like the Bamars, they also came from Yunnan (or Qinghai-Gansu region through Yunnan) and settled in their historical location. Their culture, which was heavily influenced by neighboring India, had a profound impact on the invading Bamars, who began to adapt some of the elements of the Pyu culture, particularly its literature.

- In the lower section of the river valley, particularly in the delta region, the Mon/Talaing people, whose population expanded further into the northern and central regions of neighboring present-day Thailand (Dvaravati and Haripunchai). The Mons/Talaings were the first receivers of Theravada Buddhism in mainland Southeast Asia, and they were responsible for its latter-day widespread across the rest of Indochinese peninsula (with the exception of the Vietnamese, obviously).

With the PoD of a few centuries (a couple or more) before about 2nd century BCE, what ethnolinguistic group could migrate to the Irrawaddy Valley and establish a civilization that was strong and influential to assimilate latter-day invaders/migrants?

The poll is already given above, and share your thoughts as well.
 
Could Indo-Europeans (Tocharian peoples or maybe even Saka/Eastern Iranian peoples) migrate to the Qinghai/Gansu/Tibetan plateau region, emerge into a sizable power via strong leaders, and eventually migrate south to conquer the Pyu city states and assimilate them with the same process the Pagan Empire and later Bamar states assimilated many peoples of the Irrawaddy Valley? Not sure how much would change in the long run, since I think culturally the region would be very similar, just here they'd speak an Indo-European language (likely with some linguistic relatives amongst the "Zomian" hill peoples in the region).
 
Could Indo-Europeans (Tocharian peoples or maybe even Saka/Eastern Iranian peoples) migrate to the Qinghai/Gansu/Tibetan plateau region, emerge into a sizable power via strong leaders, and eventually migrate south to conquer the Pyu city states and assimilate them with the same process the Pagan Empire and later Bamar states assimilated many peoples of the Irrawaddy Valley?
Nice insight, although the Eastern Indo-Europeans need to be migrated and settled in the Irrawaddy Valley centuries before the appearance of both the Yunnanese (Pyu) and Austroasiatic (Talaing) migrants. In addition, they should also endure the harsh climate of Tibetan Plateau region before reaching the valley.
 
Could Indo-Europeans (Tocharian peoples or maybe even Saka/Eastern Iranian peoples) migrate to the Qinghai/Gansu/Tibetan plateau region, emerge into a sizable power via strong leaders, and eventually migrate south to conquer the Pyu city states and assimilate them with the same process the Pagan Empire and later Bamar states assimilated many peoples of the Irrawaddy Valley? Not sure how much would change in the long run, since I think culturally the region would be very similar, just here they'd speak an Indo-European language (likely with some linguistic relatives amongst the "Zomian" hill peoples in the region).
Or you could have an Indo-Aryan people settle the valley, coming from eastern India.
Speaking of the Indian subcontinent, could we see some Dravidian settlement in the southern Irrawaddy delta?
 
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Nice insight, although the Eastern Indo-Europeans need to be migrated and settled in the Irrawaddy Valley centuries before the appearance of both the Yunnanese (Pyu) and Austroasiatic (Talaing) migrants. In addition, they should also endure the harsh climate of Tibetan Plateau region before reaching the valley.

Why? I know the Pyu were linguistically similar to the Bamar who they assimilated into, but would that linguistic difference be insurmountable if the invaders from Yunnan were a group where the elite were Indo-European speaking? It would be replacing the Bamar/Pagan Empire in history with an Indo-European group.
 
The latest results of the poll as of 2:30 PM local time:
  • Three people voted (at the moment)
  • Two of them voted for the Khasic people(s).
  • Only a single user voted for the Andamanese.
 
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