As Dreamers Do Part Deux

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Sonny912

OldNavy1988 said:
Here's the children's/family networks in the US ITTL
The Disney Channel (Disney)
Toon Disney
Warner Freeform (TimeWarner)
USA Cartoon Express (Peacock)
Discovery Kids (CBS Discovery; Will become Oaxis in 2009)
Nickelodeon (Henson)
Nicktoons Network (Henson)
Cartoon Network (Turner)
Boomerang (Turner)
Odyssey (Microsoft/Saban/Mattel)
Animax (Peacock)

General Entertainment
The Hub (Bally)
USA Network (Peacock)
FX (Disney)
Superstation WGN (Tribune Media)
TBS (Turner)
TNT (Turner)

NOTE: TTL's incarnation of The Hub came to existence December 31, 1992 when Bally acquired the former Sky Channel America from Rupert Murdoch and Harvey Weinstein. Below is The Hub's current logo, introduced on The Hub's Friday night WLAF games earlier this spring.
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OK this still seems confusing to me. this thread is great but it's amazingly long it's hard to remember all the differences between this and reality. their really should be tvtropes page for this to better explain it. Let me see if I have it straight.

Disney seems pretty much the same for what it was at the time with Disney channel and toon Disney but do they still have jetix as their anime/action show block as a counterpart for toonami?

Timewarner runs freeform while Turner has Cartoon Network and boomerang so that means their different companies them i'm guessing freeform has the looney tunes while the cn has to rely on Hanna Barbara which in turn would give us Cartoon cartoons like dexter's lab, cow and chicken,Johnny bravo,powerpuff girls, Ed edd eddy, samurai jack,codename knd and the rest? Or did Either company wind up with something else? And which one has dc comics under their umbrella and made the dcau? And is toonami a thing?

Is USA Cartoon Express a seperate channel now or is it still a programming block on USA network? And what are it's shows?

Henson owns nickelodeon now? So does that mean along with nicktoons like doug, Ren and Stimpy, rugrats, rocko's modern life, and stuff like all that and legends of the hidden temple they also had the muppet show?

I'm guessing by the owners Odyssey has the likes of power rangers and he man in their ranks but how does Microsoft contribute?

Bally is a fashion company in the real world right? Why exactly did they decided to run a TV channel?
 

OldNavy1988

Sonny912 said:
OK this still seems confusing to me. this thread is great but it's amazingly long it's hard to remember all the differences between this and reality. their really should be tvtropes page for this to better explain it. Let me see if I have it straight.

Disney seems pretty much the same for what it was at the time with Disney channel and toon Disney but do they still have jetix as their anime/action show block as a counterpart for toonami?

Timewarner runs freeform while Turner has Cartoon Network and boomerang so that means their different companies them i'm guessing freeform has the looney tunes while the cn has to rely on Hanna Barbara which in turn would give us Cartoon cartoons like dexter's lab, cow and chicken,Johnny bravo,powerpuff girls, Ed edd eddy, samurai jack,codename knd and the rest? Or did Either company wind up with something else? And which one has dc comics under their umbrella and made the dcau? And is toonami a thing?

Is USA Cartoon Express a seperate channel now or is it still a programming block on USA network? And what are it's shows?

Henson owns nickelodeon now? So does that mean along with nicktoons like doug, Ren and Stimpy, rugrats, rocko's modern life, and stuff like all that and legends of the hidden temple they also had the muppet show?

I'm guessing by the owners Odyssey has the likes of power rangers and he man in their ranks but how does Microsoft contribute?

Bally is a fashion company in the real world right? Why exactly did they decided to run a TV channel?
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IOTL, Bally started in the pinball business but expanded to arcade games, fitness centers and casinos later on.

USACX is now a separate channel from the USA Network.
 

myuacc1

Sonny912 said:
Timewarner runs freeform while Turner has Cartoon Network and boomerang so that means their different companies them i'm guessing freeform has the looney tunes while the cn has to rely on Hanna Barbara which in turn would give us Cartoon cartoons like dexter's lab, cow and chicken,Johnny bravo,powerpuff girls, Ed edd eddy, samurai jack,codename knd and the rest? Or did Either company wind up with something else? And which one has dc comics under their umbrella and made the dcau? And is toonami a thing?

Henson owns nickelodeon now? So does that mean along with nicktoons like doug, Ren and Stimpy, rugrats, rocko's modern life, and stuff like all that and legends of the hidden temple they also had the muppet show?
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Actually, Henson ITTL also owns Hanna-Barbera, so many of those CN originals, plus the ones you've mentioned, have become Nicktoons ITTL, while many of the later Nicktoons, like SpongeBob, Jimmy Neutron, Invader Zim, Avatar and The Fairly OddParents have become Cartoon Cartoons ITTL. Rugrats, Rocko and Ren & Stimpy are still Nicktoons ITTL, while Doug, once Nick declined to renew it, went to CN instead of Disney ITTL, with Turner actually bothering to bring back Billy West this time as well.
 
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Sonny912

myuacc1 said:
Actually, Henson ITTL also owns Hanna-Barbera, so many of those CN originals, plus the ones you've mentioned, have become Nicktoons ITTL, while many of the later Nicktoons, like SpongeBob, Jimmy Neutron, Invader Zim, Avatar and The Fairly OddParents have become Cartoon Cartoons ITTL. Rugrats, Rocko and Ren & Stimpy are still Nicktoons ITTL, while Doug, once Nick declined to renew it, went to CN instead of Disney ITTL, with Turner actually bothering to bring back Billy West this time as well.
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God this is so confusing to keep track off. Can someone please make a tvtropes page for this thread with a timeline to better understand how all this happend?
 
Ninja2006

Ninja2006

OldNavy1988 said:
One more thing, Peacock is planning to sell Animax because of potential conflicts of interest with the new Bullet Train block on USACX.
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Animax is NOT a kids channel!

And give it to Saban and Lionsgate.
OldNavy1988 said:
They could. But then again they might try to reformat an existing network into FXX. A the moment, Disney is in the process of digitally remastering Urusei Yatsura for a return to HBO in February 2008 for the 25th anniversary of that show's American debut. As of July 2008, the "syndication" edits of UY air on Animax. The "syndication" edits, which have also aired on the SciFi Channel, TNT and FX at different points usually edit out scenes that would otherwise have Lum topless. I heard there's a reboot that just came out IOTL, but I'm not sure if anybody likes it so far.
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Nice, and don't you mean July 2007?
OldNavy1988 said:
Right, but now the pool for family/childrens IP's might be too thin for cable operators to hook up another animation channel.
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What happened to most of the IP from IOTL?
OldNavy1988 said:
Boomerang right now does have the old Filmation (George and Jimmy, Nancy Drew '75, Fat Albert, Ghost Patrol), DePatie-Freleng (Ant and the Aardvark, Pink Panther) and MGM libraries (Tex Avery, Tom and Jerry, Droopy, etc.) airing around the clock. But yes, they could use a third party partner. That could be tough because of how thin cartoons are stretched across the major conglomerates at the moment.
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Well, they could pull a Animax and license older cartoons from other studios.
OldNavy1988 said:
Saban might be interested in selling its stake of Odyssey if that's necessary to facilitate a bid for Animax.
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Why would he sell his stake in Odyssey? I'd sell it to Warner so Warner could have a full time family channel so Warner Freeform could become the mature channel, or sell it to
OldNavy1988 said:
Question submitted by @Mitch!

5) In what ways could South Park, if it’s successful enough, be promoted at a given Bally park?

South Park is already pretty successful at the moment. Because of the show's raunchy subject matter, it'll likely never appear at any Bally park, even with the approval of the creators.
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You know, something South Park-themed COULD come around to one of the parks, it could just be wherever the grown up's section of the park is...
myuacc1 said:
Actually, Henson ITTL also owns Hanna-Barbera, so many of those CN originals, plus the ones you've mentioned, have become Nicktoons ITTL, while many of the later Nicktoons, like SpongeBob, Jimmy Neutron, Invader Zim, Avatar and The Fairly OddParents have become Cartoon Cartoons ITTL. Rugrats, Rocko and Ren & Stimpy are still Nicktoons ITTL, while Doug, once Nick declined to renew it, went to CN instead of Disney ITTL, with Turner actually bothering to bring back Billy West this time as well.
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Nice.
Sonny912 said:
God this is so confusing to keep track off. Can someone please make a tvtropes page for this thread with a timeline to better understand how all this happend?
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Yeah, I would like to see a TVTropes page of this too!
 
Ninja2006

Ninja2006

Tacomaster said:
And Bullet Train, if I recall, isn't exactly a kids block.
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Animation-centric channels don't have to be JUST for kids, look at Cartoon Network until those idiots at TimeWarner finally figured out that Nickelodeon was beating them in the ratings and acted like they couldn't create their own Nickelodeon equivalent because they HATED and NEGLECTED the Turner Broadcasting unit and didn't buy Fox Family because they were a bunch of cheapstakes.
 

Goldwind2

We havn't heard much about images comics allthough you mention that ted turner bought them out in 2007. OTL was oringally 6 creator owned imprints that shared an uinverse. Evunally 3 of the oringall imprints went broke off although one of them top cow production would later rejoin image. The other two were asome comics and wildstorm. OTL Asome collsope in 2000 and wild storm was bought out by dc in 2000. If top cow , asome and wildstorm break off of image I like the idea of amsome being out by eclispe, Wildstorm being out by parmon comincs ( t Malbuia Pacfic or GEMina. I side more towards Malbui PAcfic or PArmont comcis becasoem I feel that gemina is has more character then other two firms
 

PGSBHurricane

OldNavy1988 said:
This Just In...
All major outlets cut away from their daytime programming to bring the nation breaking news from Colorado...
The National Guard has aided the FBI and ATF on their raid of the Anschutz compound in the Denver area. Inside, they found as many as 20 child actors and actresses wearing ankle monitors. They also seized boxes of documents said to contain the contracts of the young AEG TV stars.
- CNN, BVN, HLN, MSNBC, CNBC; June 14, 2007
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Holy crap! As many as 20 kids wearing ankle monitors? Yeah there’s no way AEG survives without a complete facelift and even that might not be enough.
 
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