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  1. Would Israel have existed without the Holocaust?

    There were no more than half a million Jews in Germany in 1933. Where do you get the 3 million from?
  2. Would Israel have existed without the Holocaust?

    Frankly the answer would be - no . The Balfour Declaration did not bring about massive Jewish settlement . The Zionist project only got off the ground because the Nazis made Jewish life in Germany impossible and no countries were prepared to accept mass Jewish immigration . So the only place...
  3. Israel Gives Back Jordan Territory in 1970

    Not implausible . The Labour Alignment government would have accepted a non belligerency agreement and a demilitarized West Bank at that time . But this is 1970 and the Khartoum three “no’s would have prevented it .
  4. What if the Jewish state, instead of Palestine, was established in Kenya?

    See Zionist Uganda in the Finished timelines. Great stuff
  5. AHQ: What would happen if the Suez Crisis esculated?

    So Israel remains in Sinai and Gaza Strip - no Six Day War and therefore no occupation of the WB and Goan Heights . Eventually a deal between Israel and Jordan in which the Old City of Jerusalem is shared between them and Jordan gets the Gaza Strip
  6. AHC: Make Mapam win Israeli elections after 1951

    Depends which Mapam we are talking about . The Party was established in 1948 as a union of two very different Leftist groups . It got 19 seats and Ben Gurion kept it out of his government . It split very quickly three ways . The only way Mapam could have constituted a real threat to Mapai would...
  7. No Holocaust, No Israel?

    Despite the fact that the US and the Western European countries had effectively halted immigration by the early ‘20’s , there was no real desire by most of the world’s Jews to join the Zionist project . It only really took off when German Jews started arriving after 1933 . I really doubt...
  8. AH Vignette: Ishmael ve'Yitzhak

    Fascinating I actually met Meir Yaari when he was a very old man and attended his funeral Its a bit difficult to imagine him in the role you have put him Firstly he was by no means retired in 1948 Secondly - whilst he together with Yaakov Hazan led Mapam for many years - he would never...
  9. Stalinist Israel

    part 3 Yaari and Hazan boarded a small plane to Prague.The ostensible reason given was in order to attend a conference of Hashomer Hatsair leaders of the European groups in order to prepare for theie aliyah as soon as the Mandate would terminate. The conference did in fact take place but after...
  10. Stalinist Israel

    continues....... "So comrade General secretary, this is the proposal" Kaganovitch and Stalin were tucked away in the Little Corner. Stalin with his endless pipe and Kaganovitch sweating " You asked me Comrade General Secretary , some weeks ago to establish contact with progressive elements in...
  11. Stalinist Israel

    This is my first attempt at a story - so please guys don"t be too harsh . Everybody has to start sometime ! THe POD is December 1947 The UN General Assembly has voted for the partition of Palestine into two states - one Jewish and one Arab , with economic union betwen them .Immediately...
  12. AHC: make Marxism dominant within the Labor Zionist movement

    Mapam wins The first elections in Israel result in Mapam winning 40 seats(OTL -19) and becoming the major party. Ben Gurion has to decide whether to try with his Mapai party to form a coalition with the General Zionists and the hated Herut and the religious parties - or to agree to becoming...
  13. Logical Middle East Borders

    Why is it "obvious" that creating Israel "was a huge mistake "? The only thing wrong with Israel is that it was"nt created 10 years earlier! A Jewish State comprising of say 2 million citizens in 1939 would have been of considerable assistance to the Allies
  14. What if the Palestinians never left?

    A few months before the Six day war , the Israeli General Staff discussed a hypothetical scenrio of Jordan attacking Israel being beaten off and Israel ending up controling the West Bank. The concusion was that this was not a good idea because the last thing that Israel needed was to end up with...
  15. What if the Palestinians never left?

    There was no way in which a viable Jewish democratic state could have functioned with such a large Arab minority. This is the reason why today it has become a consensus viewpoint in Israel that it is simply impossible to hang onto the West Bank and Gaza AND STILL REMAIN A DEMOCRATIC STATE...
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