It's hard sifting to them, but I'm really curious as to what this board thinks is the best of the best.
What are some of the best Axis-victory TLs?
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The Fatherland by Onkel Willie, From the Atlantic to the Urals (and related stories) by varyar and The Anglo American Nazi War by CalBear.
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The Anglo/American - Nazi War in some way. Not total nazi victory and they not last very long but it is one of best written and probably one of most plausible things what I have read here or on some other places.
It is really hard to write excellent Axis victory TL sinec even winning is quiet hard and many fail do that with plausible way. And pst-WW2 are not oftern very plausible too.
It is really hard to write excellent Axis victory TL sinec even winning is quiet hard and many fail do that with plausible way. And pst-WW2 are not oftern very plausible too.
David Flin
Gone Fishin'
It's hard to get a plausible victory for a dysfunctional, internally-squabbling, short-termist state with massive resource shortages when it pits itself against the world's biggest industrial power that's way out of reach, another power that has manpower and space reserves far beyond what it has available, and a world-spanning Empire where much of the territory is out of reach.
Axis victories are not suited to the TL format. The TL format is supposed to be for "hard" AH where each and every change is examined in depth. Axis victories require so much handwaving and implausibility that doing so just doesn't look right. (And trying to justify it frequently makes the problem worse). However, for "soft" AH where instead of "how this happened", it's just "this happened, and the story takes place there", it can work better. See Harris' Fatherland fora serious example and the Wolfenstein games for a pulpy example.
(In fact, very little AH really is suited to the TL format in my mind, and it's used because of inertia and being easy to write, but that's another story for another time).
(In fact, very little AH really is suited to the TL format in my mind, and it's used because of inertia and being easy to write, but that's another story for another time).
... and unfortunatly didn't finished the IMHO still best attempt of it.
... only to be shifted to writers forum after massive spamming, trolling, vilifiing
Do you have a link to enthusiastic fuhrer? I couldn't find it using either Google or the search function.
EDIT: I found it. The title is actually "an extremely enthusiastic hitler".
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I’d like to add Guns of the Reich though the POD is Nazi Germany getting help from time traveling South Africans. It’s one of the best TLs on the site.
If you'd read those villifying trolling comments you'd see that most of them were genuine ones and ones that tried to raise real points and the like. Basically when it became clear that Boo's gonna Wehr that people basically gave up.
Those of us who were aware of the author's previous work were under no illusions about the objective of the timeline and the flaws in it, pretty much from the first posting.
Actually it was due to implausibility on a grand scale IIRC.
Garrison
Donor
The Writers forum is not some form of Gulag, many fine TLs are to be found there. The only differences are that TLs there aren't subject to the legitimate scrutiny of plausibility that TLs in Post-1900 are and Writers is restricted to board members, that's the sum total of the differences.